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Given 2013-03-25
Hobo Nickel engraving Love Token by ~shaun750 detailed engraving in such a tiny piece! Check out more conversions in this deviant's gallery and even a video of the process. ( Suggested by HundredHands and Featured by Talty )
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MAGPrintmaker Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2013
Do you use a turntable type thing to do all the swirls and curves?
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shaun750 Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2013
Yes,made my own.It's needed if you work under a scope.
To answer all your other questions:
I use a graver mach air graver,and Lindsay sharpening fixture.
I'm making a traditional engravers sample plate at the moment,which could be use to take a print from,but I havent made one specifically. I'm trying to make something that will sell for enough for the time it takes me to engrave.I used to do OK with engraved coins,but they have fizzled out lately.
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MAGPrintmaker Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2013
Oh, fascinating. Rookie question: how is an air-powered engraving tool different from just a regular burin? How does it make engraving easier? What sort of optical device do you use to view the coins so closely?
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shaun750 Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2013
The air graver makes the learning process 90% easier. I've only been engraving seriously for 14 months,but have but some serous practice into it.
I use a used bausch and lomb microscope,which is good enough to do anything,but I am on the look out for an upgrade.
Almost any used scope you buy will need to be dismantled and cleaned,and getting it lined up after is a learning process. If you can try before you buy,then its worth paying good money for.
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MAGPrintmaker Featured By Owner Aug 23, 2013
Gorgeous.
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alittlebitoff Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2013
Very beautiful. I would love to have something like this, or even the talent.
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JamesDenton Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Very impressive work. :)
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INVISIG0TH Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
beautiful
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redbaron1234 Featured By Owner Mar 27, 2013
If this was how every Half Dollar looked, I think we would still be using them.
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Angie-Pictures Featured By Owner Mar 27, 2013
Beautiful work! Congratulations on the DD! :iconflowerheartplz:
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StrivetobeDust Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2013
Technically this isn't a nickel but a half-dollar. Also, the use of coins in art and jewelry is ignored. I've seen silver coinage altered in many ways for sale in stores, catalogues and online at least since the early 1970's. This is the first time i've seen a coin minted after the clad-half (copper sandwiched between the silver alloy) were introduced, I doubt anyone would bother to waste their time. The law is primarily aimed at altering coins for the purpose of counterfeiting. Unless you're altering current circulation coins to mass produce jewelry the FEDs are not going to bother.
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Snigom Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
not really trying to be negative, but don't let the government know you've defaced a coin. It's technically against the law...even if you've improved it. :)
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shaun750 Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2013
Nope,only if you try to make a lower value coin look like a higher value.
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Snigom Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
Nope. Check US code title 18.Sections 331 and 332 specify that it is illegal to alter coins. The Code mentions altering, scaling, mutilating, defacing, impairing, diminishing and lightening as the illegal forms of coin defacing. Individuals are liable if they create defaced coins, but also if they import, possess, sell or pass them.

Read more: Defacing U.S. Currency Laws | eHow.com [link]
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shaun750 Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2013
read down a bit it says:
The language of the U.S. Code as it applies to defacing currency restricts it to acts that individuals commit with an intention of defrauding others or making currency unfit for reissue. Other acts, such as writing notes on a bill or causing the kind of damage that occurs naturally, are not illegal. However, the U.S. Treasury discourages all types of currency manipulation.
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Snigom Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
That is in refernce to bills not coins. If you intentially scratch a coin it is considered defacement. If I cut a penny in half, that is defacement.

If you sell the defacement that is now fraud.
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alittlebitoff Featured By Owner Jun 12, 2013
So how are elongated penny machines Ok?
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Snigom Featured By Owner Jun 13, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
yes, because they have permission by the Government.
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ArtisticRoute Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
It is only illegal if used to defraud (ie. modifying currency to pass off as a higher denomination). Penny presses are fine, modification for jewelry is fine; so is modification for art.
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Snigom Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
No, sadly it's any form of defacement.Sections 331 and 332 specify that it is illegal to alter coins. The Code mentions altering, scaling, mutilating, defacing, impairing, diminishing and lightening as the illegal forms of coin defacing. Individuals are liable if they create defaced coins, but also if they import, possess, sell or pass them.

Read more: Defacing U.S. Currency Laws | eHow.com [link]
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ArtisticRoute Featured By Owner Mar 27, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Here is a statement from the U.S. Treasury. [link]

"Section 331 of Title 18 of the United States code provides criminal penalties for anyone who 'fraudulently alters, defaces, mutilates impairs, diminishes, falsifies, scales, or lightens any of the coins coined at the Mints of the United States.' This statute means that you may be violating the law if you change the appearance of the coin and fraudulently represent it to be other than the altered coin that it is. As a matter of policy, the U.S. Mint does not promote coloring, plating or altering U.S. coinage: however, there are no sanctions against such activity absent fraudulent intent."
(Bold added for my emphasis.)

They do not promote or sanction it (one can even read into this that they frown upon it), but it is not illegal.
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binarystep Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Really? It sounds dubious considering silver half dollars aren't minted anymore! :lol:
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Snigom Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
Doesnt matter if it is no longer minted.Sections 331 and 332 specify that it is illegal to alter coins. The Code mentions altering, scaling, mutilating, defacing, impairing, diminishing and lightening as the illegal forms of coin defacing. Individuals are liable if they create defaced coins, but also if they import, possess, sell or pass them.

Read more: Defacing U.S. Currency Laws | eHow.com [link]
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JamesDenton Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
I saw you cutting and pasting the part of the article that supports your claim for illegality, but you did not paste the part that points out that's it's restricted to attempt to defraud or to prevent the ability to use the currency (reissue).

The U.S. Code
The only law against defacing currency is found in the United States Code, which contains the permanent laws of the federal government. U.S. Code Title 18 includes several specific sections that govern U.S. currency.

Sections 331 and 332 specify that it is illegal to alter coins. The Code mentions altering, scaling, mutilating, defacing, impairing, diminishing and lightening as the illegal forms of coin defacing. Individuals are liable if they create defaced coins, but also if they import, possess, sell or pass them.

Section 333 covers paper currency. It states that it is illegal to cut, deface, mutilate, disfigure, perforate or rejoin bills. Section 333 also pertains to any other activity that is intended to make a bill unfit to be reissued and remain in circulation.

Other Defacing
The language of the U.S. Code as it applies to defacing currency restricts it to acts that individuals commit with an intention of defrauding others or making currency unfit for reissue. Other acts, such as writing notes on a bill or causing the kind of damage that occurs naturally, are not illegal. However, the U.S. Treasury discourages all types of currency manipulation.

The actual decision as to whether or not an individual has defaced currency with an intent to commit fraud is left to judges, who may consider additional evidence to determine guilt or innocence.
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Snigom Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
Yeah, someone already made that point. It's just like anything else. It's how the law is interpreted. I am not against what the artist is doing. I was pointing out what I believed to be a fact. Which it turns out I am both right and wrong at the same time. Figures though, most of the laws in the USA are written that way.
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JamesDenton Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Indeed. :)
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binarystep Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
If they're illegal, so be it. I found a TON of coins like this on Ebay. I'll buy some, screw the government, fight the power. 8-)
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Snigom Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
lol. Fair enough :)
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binarystep Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
The govt. has dumb laws, I'll say that. :lol:

FIGHT THE POWER!
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Snigom Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
I would prefer to fight the power if I was under 17.
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binarystep Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
lolno

Anarchy is a political movement! XD
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shade-fish Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2013  Student Digital Artist
yes
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DaveMannel Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2013
I don't know why but I love it
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PirateLotus-Stock Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2013
WOW fantastic work!
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JEC00k Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I wonder.... does it give the same change as any other nickel? :O
AWESOME WORK, btw. Congrats on the dd!!
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Fagurt Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2013
Congrats on the DD :D
Awesome job!
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ryanisnasty Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2013
Congratulations on the well deserved DD! :heart:
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GazTV-inc Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2013
Hobo nickel?
Since when did Hobos give US money?
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dragonsong17 Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
That's so creative! I love it!
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Aneirin-Aryon Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2013  Professional General Artist
Very cool! Such detail. :D
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vienna2000 Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
THIS IS SO COOL!!!!!!
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CorDaiZee Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
That's very cool. No, it's Awesome!! Great job! This is a well-deserved DD!

I'm just wondering if they would accept that coin at a store... Hmmm
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ViolentSwamy Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2013
Wish I could do something like that.
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Camerartus Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2013  Professional General Artist
Amazing detail.
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CrypticDog Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
This is all kinds of awesome.
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Angelinthelight02 Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
beastage!
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GillianIvy Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
If only all coins were this lovely, we'd never want to part with them.
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drakeo1903 Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
wow, id totally buy this XD
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raptorman123 Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2013
Good ol' JFK. Now that was a president who stood by what he said.
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Minkymy Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2013
Breathtaking.
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